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Posted 17 December 2007 - 17:40:47

Bio sam u Pragu pre tri godine i tom prilikom upoznao sve strahote nocnog zivota, zavucene kutke isprane od bilo kakvog osecaja moralne odgovornosti i ziherasa svake vrste. Posto sam obezbedio produzenu novogodisnju fijestu u trajanju od 8 dana, sad bih video ponovo sve isto, samo jos vise.Ajmo malo saveta za manje poznate nocne klubove, "nocne barove", jazz klubove, sushi restorane i zanimljive internacionalne knjizare. S obzirom na period popusta, prihvatam savete i za manje poznate prodavnice (trzne centre znam da lociram) lokalnih dizajnera, a dobro su dosla i uputstva za lociranje Marokanaca (prodaju najkvalitetniju cokoladu).Nakon povratka obecavam jedan temeljan izvestaj, doduse bez slika.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 17:46:25

huja nudi vikend aranzmane. ekstra.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 18:30:27

Ajmo malo saveta za manje poznate nocne klubove, "nocne barove", jazz klubove, sushi restorane i zanimljive internacionalne knjizare.

Sushi restoran u zemlji koja je hiljadama kilometara udaljena od mora i u kojoj ne mozhesg pushkom da nadjesh lokalnu Azijatsku/Japansku populaciju? :blink: Jel' imash u Srbiji restoran koji sluzhi "hobotnicu na srpski nachin" u miljeu tipichne dalmatinske konobe?

a dobro su dosla i uputstva za lociranje Marokanaca (prodaju najkvalitetniju cokoladu).

E, da. :lol:

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 20:26:27

huja nudi vikend aranzmane. ekstra.

Sa gazda Hujadinom je vec pao dogovor o ispijanju piva i obilasku mesta sa diskretnim crvenim osvetljenjem.

Sushi restoran u zemlji koja je hiljadama kilometara udaljena od mora i u kojoj ne mozhesg pushkom da nadjesh lokalnu Azijatsku/Japansku populaciju? :blink:

Sta da ti kazem, izguglao sam vise od 15 sushi restorana. BTW, tuna u Japan stize iz Sredozemnog mora :-) Mogao bi neko da se mane asocijacija i u pauzi sastavi 1 kvalitetan meni odavde.

Jel' imash u Srbiji restoran koji sluzhi "hobotnicu na srpski nachin" u miljeu tipichne dalmatinske konobe?

Cek, kad kazes "hobotnica na srpski nacin" ne znam je l se zezas na racun one Kartmanove fore ili si ozbiljan :) U slucaju da si ozbiljan, stvarno se moze pojesti dobra hoba™ u Beogradu - najbolju sam jeo u tradicionalnom grckom restoranu Zorba. E sad, ako me pitas otkud hobotnica na meniju grckog restorana u Beogradu, tiltovacu se iz mesta. Ima i autenticnih dalmatinskih konoba sa njujorskim cenama.Samo nema marokanske cokolade. Speaking of witch, djavolska je rabota ta njihova cokolada od najfinijih zrna marokanskog kakaovca™, pakovana u obliku mocart kugli od nekoliko grama. Sta cu, ljubitelj sam slatkisa.Elem, prosli put sam obisao vece praske znamenitosti i sad bih hteo da posetim neke zanimljive coskove, vinske barove, fine restoracije isl. Leia je dala dobar hint, Muzej igracaka - nesto na tu temu, samo za odrasle.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 21:49:24

Sta da ti kazem, izguglao sam vise od 15 sushi restorana. BTW, tuna u Japan stize iz Sredozemnog mora :-)

Onda sigurno ima jedan koji je dobar, zar ne? Ima izuzetaka (vidi www.sushiden.net - najbolji u kome sam bio na severnoamerichkom kontinentu; vikendom nema rezervacije, cheka se 60-90 minuta), koji potvrdjuju pravilo, a to je: shansa da ubodesh dobar sushi restoran je proporcionalna broju Azijata koji zhive u tom gradu. Al' dobro, ako ga nema u Beogradu (a raspitivao sam se, nema ga), onda je i Prag dobar.

Ima i autenticnih dalmatinskih konoba sa njujorskim cenama.

E, reci gde da znam kad sledeci put dodjem.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 02:28:06

BTW, tuna u Japan stize iz Sredozemnog mora :-)

Da zaustave istrebljenje tune, japanske vlasti su uspostavile ogranicenja na kolicinu koju japanski brodovi smeju da uhvate.Razlika se popunjava uglavnom sa Tajvana i Koreje. Po svetu, skoro svako ko lovi tunu, najkvalitetnije delove izvozi u Japan, nesto prodaju lokalnim sushi barovima, tuna steaks za lokalne supermarkete a ostatak ide u konzerve.Ta iz sredozemnog mora je verovatno iz Spanije ali daleko od toga da je to izvor tune.Ja ne mogu da jedem nekuvano meso, redovno kupujem tunu i ispecem je u toster rerni.Japan is the world's largest market for tuna used to make sashimi. In 1998, Taiwan was the largest exporter of tuna to Japan, followed by the Republic of Korea. They each accounted for approximately 20% of total Japanese tuna imports. These two countries were followed by Indonesia, some flag of convenience countries (Honduras, Belize, etc.), Australia, Singapore, Spain, and the United States. Taiwan and the Republic of Korea possess a large fleet of super low temperature tuna fishing vessels that together equal the size of the Japanese fleet. These fleets operate around the world, meaning that imports from Taiwan and the Republic of Korea are not only large in volume, but also rich in species. Most frozen tuna are imported from these two countries. Indonesia also possesses similar fleets, but in recent years, the country has begun to make use of air transports of fresh tuna. Indonesia is Japan's largest source of fresh yellowfin tuna and big-eyed tuna. Australia, Spain, and the United States tend to deal in high quality tuna such as bluefin tuna and southern bluefin tuna. Besides countries listed above, fresh tuna are imported from many other countries in Europe, the Americas, and the South Pacific. Fresh tuna are usually caught and taken to the nearest port, then air-freighted to Japan.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 20:59:52

evo malo o pragu i iz modistichkog profi databejsa :s_d: ima i sva sila nekakvih fotki al nemam sad vremena da kacim...Czech designersA few local Czech designers have established themselves with a loyal following and their own boutiques or ateliers. Each designer has championed their own form of feminine elegance, free from the demands of ever-changing trends that dictate designs in cities such as Paris, Milan, New York or London. Designs here are refreshingly simple, elegant with subtle twists using good quality fabrics and workmanship.Former model Klara Nademlynska trained in Paris before opening her Prague boutique in 1998, at Dlouha 3, in Stare Mesto. Emphasis is on material, quality and cut. Her prt-a-porter line for women leans to retro styling, and recent additions include Klara Jeans and Klara Sport. The face of her brand is Czech model Tereza Maxova, who in Nademlynska's eyes personifies physical and spiritual health.Tatiana Kovarikova designs for her own womenswear label Tatiana. The former stage designer now turns her creativity to the shapes and timeless elegance of her garments. Her success is renowned throughout the city and local TV and music celebrities favour her designs. Her shop is on Dusni 1, Stare Mesto.Another well established Prague designer is Hana Havelkova. Located in the same street as Tatiana, her teal blue boutique and atelier are at Dusni 10 in Stare Mesto. Her style ranges from power suits for business women to evening dresses with large cut-outs. Bales of fabric for her made-to-measure designs line the walls of her small studio adjacent to the shop.Taiza is another couture label made in Prague. Launched lavishly in the castle's former stableblock, the Paris-Prague collaboration between French investors and a Cuban-Czech designer, Osmany Rodriguez Laffita offers simple, elegant womenswear. Laffita offers Taiza couture, prt-a-porter and weekend lines.Perhaps the best-established atelier is that of Helena Fejkov, which can be found on the upper level within the glass-domed Lucerna mall. Her women's suits and couture keep her clients loyal, but she has also introduced other labels into her fold including Atelier Nikkita, Dadaj, Hana Havelkova and Ivana Kondrova.Main shopping streetsFor the key designer boutiques and brands, head to Parizska. This tree-lined avenue has a luxurious feel about it and the palatial buildings bear the hallmarks and grandeur of Baroque and Art Nouveau styles. The luxury brands to be found here range from Calvin Klein, Escada Sport, Hugo Boss and Dunhill to Salvatore Ferragamo, Dior, Herms, Dolce & Gabbana and Louis Vuitton. Shop for shoes at Alberto Guardini, Sergio Rossi and Gianna Meliani, and bags at Francesco Biasia. Thun provides high quality porcelain and the upper class jewellers here are Faberg and Carollinum. Le Patio sells a pan-Asian mix of sophisticated living accessories. The Malo store sells a variety of womenswear, menswear and accessory labels including Gianfranco Ferr, Marc Jacobs, drykorn, Dirk Bikkembergs and Freitag bags.The old town is full of intertwining streets, endless souvenir shops and some boutiques in the little squares. Those of interest are Marina Rinaldi and Coccinelle on Zelezna; Versace and Ermenegildo Zegna at U Prasne Brany on Obneci Dum; Tom Tailor and Dessous Dessus on Krahodvorska; Samsonite and Morgan on Havelska and Escada on Male Nam Square.Havelska is also the location of the tourist laden craft and souvenir market. A number of streets in the city are packed with international brands, the likes of which can be found in all major cities, including Benetton, H&M, Zara, Puma, Quiksilver, adidas, Diesel, Levi's and even Marks & Spencer (in Novy Smichov mall, as well as on Vaklavske Nam).Na Prikope is a wide central boulevard connecting Wenceslav Square and the Powder Tower. Several shopping centres were built here at the end of the 1990s, confirming this street as a shopping destination for everything mainstream clothing, accessories, watches, jewellery, shoes, glass and electronics. Linking with Vaclavske Nam and Vodickova, this area in New Town is a mid-market shopping hub. Further details on the shopping malls and passages are given below.Brands to look out for include Bata (German footwear), Promod, Salamander (German footwear), Nike (www.praguestore.cz), Reebok, Sport Town (mixed international activewear brands), Levi's, Future (Gas and Diesel), Mango, Oilily, Kenvelo (Czech casual brand), Benetton, Clockhouse, New Yorker, Lacoste, Next, H&M, Puma (coming soon), Vero Moda and Nautica.Czech mid-brands to look out for include: Pietro Filipi: Czech midmarket fashion brand for men and women. Located all over Czech Republic. See www.pietro-filipi.com. Kenvelo: trend-driven casualwear for men, women and kids, with outlets in malls, on Na Prikope and Vaklavske Nam. See www.kenvelo.com Key fashion boutiquesKali is a gorgeous little designer womenswear boutique on Stupartska, a street tucked away in Old Town. Select pieces, bags and shoes are stocked from Stella McCartney, Diane von Furstenberg, FrostFrench, Earl Jeans, Paul & Joe and Marilyn Moore, plus So Marilyn. Owner Grainne Lucey-Tomiczek opened her brick-and-white-walled boutique in December 2004, designed by a close friend with antique furniture and wall-to-ceiling ancient mirrors.Surrounded by the mid-market brands on Na Prikope sits Yanny, a womenswear designer boutique with elegant and sporty labels such as Custo, D&G, Armani Collezioni, Versace Sport, JPG and Marc Cain. The interior is cream and steel, sleek and simple, where the product takes centre stage.Fashion Police is a cool, contemporary boutique for shoes and accessories for men and women. Located at the top of the designer street Parizska (river end) its key brands are Prada, Prada Sport and Cesare Paciotti. Calling itself "the ultimate shoe boutique", it has stylish modern decor reminiscent of Panton and Courrges, white and mirrored.A small store selling a simple, fresh womenswear line, Boheme, created by Hana and Jan Stocklassa, is our final pick for fashion boutiques. The look is part Hoxton, East London and part gamine from Paris's left bank district St Germain. Key pieces are knits, separates and quirky accessories.Youth/Junior streetwear and activewear storesDotted around the city are several good youthwear brands of streetwear and secondhand. Here is our pick of the best:S2Mainly sells the Burton snowboarding brand, plus T-shirts and sweats from a local graphic label intrika (see www.intrika.cz). The shop also sells Rip Curl, Canada Goose expedition clothing, Ullfrotte expedition socks, Dakine bags, gotcha, Baffin footwear, Fundango and Smith eyewear.RepresentA Czech streetwear and boarding label, located in a quiet street in Mala Stana on the left bank. Visit www.represent.cz.EgoIn Rybna, old town, near Josef hotel, is a jeanswear store with casualwear for boys and girls from Pepe, Guess, Esprit, Mexx, Marc O'Polo, Jackpot & Cottonfield and Polo Ralph Lauren.BackstageThis boutique sells retro and the very occasional vintage designer piece. The selection is quite mixed, so worth having a good look. Fun decor and friendly hip young staff. Kudy Tudy Tucked away in a side street (next door to Represent), this is a small treasure trove of retro styles for girls, plus bags, jewellers and some local labels made by young design students.Minimax board shopLocated in the maze of passages between Fortuna and Lucerna mall on Vodickova, it sells the usual top boarding brands in clothing, hardware and accessories.Interiors storesFor interiors stores head to Sirius on Dlouha in the Old Town. Here you can find the pick of international and European classic contemporary designs furniture, home accessories and furnishing fabrics. In the same street, Sejto offers a wealth of handprinted cottons made into accessories, household linen, T-shirts, bags and scarves. The colours are bright, graphics cute with a fresh Northern European feel. A large Flamant French interiors store can be found in the back courtyard of Slovansky Dum shopping mall.Passages & mallsThe Czech pasaz, meaning covered passage or mall, is a commonplace shopping experience in Prague, especially during the colder months when you really don't want to be wandering around outside. Several turn-of-the-century buildings that have always housed shopping centres are still intact. Some have been renovated, some refurbished and there are some very modern contemporary additions too.Fortuna on Vodickova is the most elaborate and elegant in terms of Art Nouveau architecture. Glass-domed Lucerna is another nearby, built in the oriental style between 1910 and 1920. Neither has particularly memorable shops, but they warrant a visit to see the buildings alone.The covered passages located around Na Prikope are:Koruna: built in the Viennese Secession style, it has a beautiful dome of diamond-shaped glass tiles and grey marble columns. Check out Kenvelo, Pinito (kids' toys), Maximo (Italian shoes brands), Accessorize and Anima Tua (a midmarket brand of womenswear in St Tropez style).Myslbek: this is a 1990s addition with a steel and glass faade that mixes well with the pot pourri of architecture in Prague's centre. Shops here include Mothercare and Next.Broadway was modified from its 1930s original state in the late 1990s, though the original design remains. Destroy youth footwear store is the most interesting shop here.Slovansky Dum: a huge shopping and entertainment centre with nice courtyard bars and restaurants at the rear. Check website for details but we recommend Cerruti Blue, Hilfiger Denim, Nautica, Geox, Camper, G-Star, Cinque, Beltissimo, Mexx, Miss Sixty, Flamant and Lise Charmel lingerie.Further afield across the river, Novy Smichov is a large modern shopping centre full of international brands at the transport hub Andel. Two floors of shops and one of entertainment.Local craftsmanshipBohemia is renowned for the high quality craftsmanship of its glassblowers. Two centrally located stores in the old town provide a wealth of excellent glassware Moser and Celetna Crystal. Intricately decorated hand-blown Xmas decorations can be sourced in Prague, as can hand-painted Easter eggs to hang as decorations. Another popular craft here is wooden puppet making. There are a number of stores selling souvenir puppets, but also a few better ones which specialise in fantastical and macabre puppet creations the lanes winding up to the castle have some good puppet stores. Art Decoratif is a good destination shop for home accessories in art nouveau style, and Manufaktura provides an excellent variety of local crafts from wooden toys to Easter eggs. Jewellery is another popular source of income from tourists amber and garnet are the key stones.Inspiration, art and museumsFor fans of Alphonse Mucha (1860-1939), a visit to the Mucha Museum is a must. It gives an insight into his world as one of the most celebrated artists of the Art Nouveau period.Likewise for literary fans of Franz Kafka. The Kafka Museum offers another angle on the city through the eyes of one if its creative sons. This Prague born writer (1883-1924) became one of the greatest figures of 20th century world literature.The Prague jewellery collection is also worth a visit. Spanning a period from 17th century to the present day, jewellery and luxury decorative items are on display including some Faberge eggs and Tiffany sets never seen before. It is found in the Hergetova Cihelna complex next to the Kafka museum.The museum of Cubism houses much of the work of its architect and designer Josef Gocar who created it in 1912. It is within the house of the Black Madonna, itself an excellent representation of Cubism architecture, showing also furniture, glass and ceramics.For music lovers there is a Mozart Museum and Dvorzak Museum in a carefully restored 18th century Baroque villa. Also take a look at Prague's Museum of Decorative Arts with its permanent collection of Czech and European applied arts from 16th to 19th centuries.The National Gallery has various sites scattered around the city Kinsky Palace, Saint George's Convent, Sternberg Palace and Trade Fair Building. Further details at www.ngprague.cz Where to eat & drinkIf you are looking for restaurants and cafes with a touch of contemporary flair, the designer street Parizska is dominated by the Bacchus group's venues, Pravda and Barock., fashionable bar, caf, restaurants with an international feel.The Emporio Caf chain located at various shopping destinations throughout the city provides a respite in ultra modern surroundings. The ultimate fashion caf is Defil, a popular haunt for local fashionistas, on Vodickova.For a quiet spot and pure design head to Mala Strana's Material architectural and design store with its caf Sugar Coffee Lemonade (Cukrkavalimonada) next door. It is set back off the main street in a tiny square opposite a church and has an amazing painted ceiling from the 16th century.Coda in Hotel Aria in tones of chocolate and scarlet has excellent food and the hotel also boasts a splendid roof terrace with the best view over the city. Kogo in Slovansky Dum shopping mall on Na Prikope, has a buzzing atmosphere with shoppers and workers from the nearby offices. It offers a restaurant with ample terraced seating under lime trees and a wine bar.Caf culture is key in Prague. Legendary cafes with traces of the past include Grand Caf Orient with its original cubist lamps and buffet bar in the House of the Black Madonna (Cubism Museum). The most famous Czech cubist Josef Gocar created the caf in 1912 we recommend their generously sized pancakes. Caf Savoy is also worth a visit with its 19th century faade, but the original ceiling frescoes are now covered and the interior is a rather 70s orange and white.Located in a Baroque palace at no 40 Nerudova in the Lesser Quarter, Mala Strana, is Bazaar Mediterranee. This hip Provencal restaurant, has a great roof terrace with bar and beach caf complete with real sand and deckchairs (weather permitting), accessed by a long staircase.River views are cherished and there are several restaurants offering prime positions on Kampa island. Our favourite is Kampa Park, which is famous for its gourmet international cuisine and views of Charles Bridge, its offshoot Kampa Fish and adjacent Kampa Garden terrace. Both dcor and cuisine are contemporary and stylish. The same owners also run Hergetova Cihelna bar-restaurant-lounge in the nearby complex housing the Kafka Museum in Mala Strana. There are many traditional candle-lit taverns of the Lesser Quarter serving the local brew, Pilsner Urquell and Czech cuisine such as goulash and dumplings or hearty stews.For hip nightlife head to the popular lounge-bar-clubs Bugsy's Bar, Tretters, Mecca or Duplex. Where to stayThe Aria hotel lies in a peaceful embassy-lined side street which winds up to the famous castle and palaces overlooking the city, it is a stone's throw from St Nicholas Cathedral and just minutes from the Charles Bridge. One side of the hotel overlooks the beautiful Vrborska gardens and the hotel boasts a fantastic roof terrace caf-bar-restaurant with a breathtaking 360 view. A unique hotel experience mixing music and luxury amid the palaces and baroque gardens of Prague's Mala Strana district, the Little Quarter. Josef is a temple to glass and chrome, and Prague's key design hotel. If you are a fan of the Starck-school of design you will feel right at home in Czech interior designer Eva Jiricna's transparent and semi-transparent rooms and bathrooms. The hotel is located in the old part of town, close to good boutiques, restaurants and some of Prague's famous sights, such as Old Town Square, Wenceslas Square, Charles Bridge, Powder Tower, Opera and concert halls.Neruda is a bijou four star hotel, small in stature but grand in style, nestled in Nerudova Street, the King's Road winding down from the castle. The historic building dating back to 1348 has been tastefully reconstructed in cool hues of pistachio and vanilla, offering a calm and charming place to stay.Also Praha Palace, Savoy and Le Palais are classic grand dame hotels. For further details see Room Service. Opening times The majority of shops open 9.30am-10am and close again at 7pm. Some stores open later on Mondays, at 12pm. Very few open on Sundays, mainly selective international brands in the designer street Parizska.Airport info Praha Ruzyne airport is about 15km northwest of the city centre, accessible by taxi or metro combined with bus. By taxi it should cost 400 to 500 CZK. The airport shuttle company Cedaz takes passengers from 1-4 people for 400 CZK to a central hotel destination, or a general service costing 90CZK operates every 15 minutes from the airport to Namesti Republiky Republic Square. Bus line 119 takes you to Dejvicka, then take metro line A from there into the centre.Travel info Prague's taxi drivers are notorious for overcharging tourists. Ask how much it should be before getting in, make sure the taximeter is on, working, and the driver should print out and sign the receipt with the exact price. The average rate should be 30 CDZ per km. There is an efficient central tram system, buses cover more of the outerlying areas and there are three metro lines: A,B;C. Tickets are available at most tabacconists and kiosks. Single journeys completed within 20mins and without changing cost 14CDZ. Daily tickets cost 85CDZ.Fact file Avoid the high season months of July and August. Winter can be beautiful, but very cold. All streets are cobbled, so take comfortable footwear leave high-heels at home. Watch your step - the endless beautiful architectural details leave you looking upwards the whole time. Music is to be found everywhere, from buskers, locals entertaining, opera performances and recitals. Check into the Aria hotel for the ultimate music experience. Dubbed the city of 100 spires, there are in actual fact over 500 spires throughout the cityTips Escape to the Central Bohemian countryside 15 mins drive away is the Cesky Kras natural protected area. Drive to the picturesque village of Svaty Jan Pod Skalou (Saint John under the cliff) and climb the hill behind the church to take in the surrounding views. The history of the village dates back to the end of the 9th century when, according to legend, the first Czech Christian hermit, Ivan, settled down in a cave under a large cliff. You can visit Ivan's cave and relics via the church. Alternatively visit the impressive Karlstejn castle also in Cesky. Karlovy Vary is a great spa town for an additional trip out of Prague.MagazinesZivelQuarterly fashion, music, technologywww.zivel.czUmelecIntellectual art scene and contemporary culturewww.divus.cz SoapGraphic design. Czech and Englishwww.zulu.cz/soap X MagClub and music scene, some fashionwww.xmag.cz Dolce VitaGlam lifestyle, fashion and designwww.stratosfera.cz Look out for Czech versions of Elle and Men's Health.Also Cosmopolitan, Esquire, Style and Harper's Bazaar are all published by www.stratosfera.cz FestivalsDesignblok 0504-09 October 2005www.designblok.cz The annual presentation of Czech and international design. Held in galleries and studios throughout the city. Exhibitions, performances, lectures and events.Prague Autumn takes place annually late September in the renowned historical buildings and concert halls with world-known performers of classical music. www.pragueautumn.cz Prague Spring, the international classical music festival takes place May-June. www.pragueautumn.cz

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 21:47:51

dva sajtsijinga u kojima ces sigurno uzivati :-)lennonov zid (kod kampe, ukoso od francuske ambasade, predjes most iz pravca grada pa dva puta desno), sve pesnik do pesnika.kafana za umjetnike, tynska 6, odmah pored kafkine knjizare. tamo svi nose crne rolke i tvid sakoe sa koznim zakrpama na laktovima.za ozbiljno:jedina strana knjizara koja je nesto vredela pre par godina bila je the globe, pstrossova 6, puno sekndhendova, relativno jeftino, super kafa, mislim da ima i internet unutra. u to vreme je i knjizara radila do ponoci, pored kafica, ne znam da li je tako i sada.ima i "anagram", tn 4, dosta istorije i umetnosti, ne previse beletristike. poneka knjiga na francuskom. prednost, radila do devet uvece.trebalo bi da se otvorio jos jedan shakespeare and sons, ovaj za koji znam je u lužickho seminře 10, ali nesto nisam bila odusevljena, ne secam se zasto.u antikvarnicama nisam imala toliko srece, a u molovima ponegde moze da se provuce neki aerodromski bestseler. znam kafanu za gulas, ako jos postoji, staromacek u ulici dlouha, ne znam broj, ali na pocetku. gulas, prste da polizes. idi pokloni se spomeniku janu palahu na trgu wesceslas, mozda ce nama jadnima biti potrebna njegova podrska. ja sam, ne znam kako, stigla i do tv tornja (mahlerovy sady 1) ne mogu da nadjem sliku sad, ali pored lepog restorana na vrhu koji i nije tako skup, ludilo su elijen bebe koje vise i pentraju se po tornju (inace, napravljen sezdesetih da bi ometao programe za trulog zapada).

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:58:32

Prvo pravilo prilikom putovanja u Prag treba da glasi "kupiti kartu u jednom smeru". To je ako se putuje u pravcu Beograda, jer povratak neizostavno uzrokuje tezi vid depresije, iz vise razloga. No, ako vec morate da se vratite, preporucujem let avionom. Dok razne agencije voze do Praga kombijem ili autobusem za cenu od 60-80 evra, povratna karta avionom kosta od 180 evra sa svim taksama ako se rezervise na vreme. Za Prag lete JAT i CSA, cini mi se zajednickim linijama. Odnedavno je moguce leteti i CSA lowcost kompanijom koja saobraca iz Praga do nekih evropskih destinacija po fiksnoj ceni od oko 135 evra sa taksama i standardnom uslugom u avionu. Karte se kupuju preko sajta click4sky.com, ali ih treba rezervisati na vreme jer se karte brzo prodaju. Razlika u ceni od manje od 100 evra donosi put kraci za minimum desetak sati, odmoran dolazak u Prag i osmeh simpaticnih stjuardesa ceske nacionalne kompanije. Kad se jednom probijete kroz novobeogradsku guzvu, sve ide prilicno brzo. Nakon pristanka na praski aerodrom i uobicajenih formalnosti pasoske kontrole, putnik postaje privilegovani korisnik fenomenalnog gradskog transporta koji do prve linije metroa putuje nesto vise od 20 minuta. Jednom u metrou, dolazak do bilo koje destinacije u sirem centru grada pretvara u pesmu zbog odlicne povezanosti, bilo podzemnom, bilo nadzemnom zeleznicom sa starim gradskim jezgrom. S obzirom da sam bio smesten blizu stadiona FK Bohemiana, popularnih Klokana (:Hail:), put od aerodroma do stana je trajao nesto vise od 50 minuta. Cak i u tom delu grada, koji se nalazi tik iza sireg centra, moze se popiti odlicno pivo dobrodoslice po smesnim cenama za razmazenog turistu prijehalog iz Beograda. Lepo sredjeni pub, cak i za elitnije krajeve beogradske blejacke scene, prodaje vise vrsta tocenog ceskog piva I belgijskog piva. Cena ceskih piva je oko 1.2 evra za kriglu od 0.5l, a belgijska su bila osetno skuplja, cak oko 1.5e za veliku kriglu. Toliko ili neznatno skuplje pivo kosta i u centralnim cetvrtima, osim u strateski rasporedjenim kaficima za sisanje mladih inostranih tetrebova. No, posto je tetreb iz price sve, samo ne mlad i neukusan, uspesno je eskivirao postavljene stupice, osim jednom.Pivo zasluzuje poseban pasus. S obzirom da ga skoro svuda prodaju na tocenje, ne moze se mnogo pogresiti u izboru neke od poznatijih marki. Najblizi nasem ukusu su plzenska piva Pilsner Urquell i Gambrinus, od kojih se Pilsner prodaje u dve varijante - desetka i dvanaestica. Broj predstavlja procenat alkohola u ekstraktu, dok je pravi procenat znatno nizi, za desetku oko 3.5-4%, a za dvanaesticu 4.5-5%. Ova piva imaju gorcinu na jeziku koja se brzo nakon gutljaja pretvara u blagi slad. Za razliku od njih, piva poput Bernarda (slabije i slatko), Budvar (slatko-gorko) i Staropramena (blago gorko, takodje postoji u dve varijante - 10 i 12) su pitkija i pogodnija za produzena pijancenja. Posebna zanimljivost je da se Pilsner u nekoliko ekskluzivnih pivnica inovativnim sistemom toci direktno iz tankova u podrumu i navodno ima jos bolji ukus. Prilikom narucivanja piva treba obratiti paznju i na ponudu iz bratske Belgije. U mom lokalnom pabu smo uspesno dekantirali nekoliko omanjih™ buradi Hoegaardena, mada nismo stedeli ni tamne Kelt, Leffe i Edelweiss. Premda konobarice nisu bile preterano raspolozene za caskanje na engleskom sa musterijama, napomenuo bih da postoji dobitna taktika za otudjivanje krigle pred njihovim ocima uz izmamljeni osmeh. Nisam siguran da bih ponovio rutinu, posebno s obzirom da je iste krigle moguce kupiti u prodavnici za sitne novce (i bukvalno sitne, najsitnija novcanica koju cete u praksi susresti je 100 kruna, oko 4 evra, onu od pedeset sam video svega nekoliko puta tokom boravka). Naravno, kupovina ne predstavlja uporedivo zadovoljstvo.Sad kad smo bezbedno stigli i neoprezno se opili, vreme je za obracun sa ceskom hranom. U Pragu postoje dve vrste ugostiteljskih objekata™, za Cehe i za strance. Gostionice gde Cesi jedu se zovu hospode. Konstrukcija kompletnog obroka se u ovim objektima moze zatvoriti za 5-6 evra sa sve picem ili nesto vise kako se lokacija blizi centru. Filozofija po kojoj hospode rade nalaze da se hrana placa po nabavnoj ceni iz prodavnica uvecanoj za 20-30%. Prijatno osvezenje za ovcice pristigle iz prestonice gurmanskih marifetluka. Hrana nije previse ukusna i Cesi ne polazu mnogo na egzoticne zacine, ukljucujuci biber i so. Osim mahom bezukusnih kobasica i varijacija krompira i knedlicki, ono sto treba probati i ponoviti iskustvo je svinjska kolenica. Kolenice nisu dimljene i najbolje su kad dodju u sosu od piva koji daje blago slatkasti ukus koji moze da se sece bilo gorkim Pilsenom, bilo slatkim crnim Krusovicama. U nekim hospodama se pivo donosi na traci, jedno za drugim, pa pivopije slabije rezistentnosti neka budu na oprezu. Rebarca i slicne svinjarije, gulasi, sve je to dobro, kao i bramborova polevka, supa od krompira koja se sluzi u izdubljenim pogacama :Hail: Solidna hospoda u centru grada se moze naci pored jednog od ulaza u metro stanicu Mustek uz nesto vise cene od uobicajenih. U McDonaldsima sirom grada jedu uglavnom mladji turisti, dok oni iskusniji odmeravaju restorane sa raznolikom ponudom. Iako cene u restoranima nisu vise od beogradskih, ipak treba voditi racuna da odmeravanje u uzem gradskom jezgru ipak moze solidno da opauci po dzepu uz neizvestan kulinarski ishod. Iskoristicu ovu priliku da razocaram skeptike: u Pragu se moze pojesti odlican sushi od sveze ribe, doduse uz alternativno prijatne cene. Sushi-bar u kome sam testirao srecu se zove Mill-House (ne MILF!), gde su izneli odlican sashimi od sveze tune, lososa i jezeka, uz ne bas najsveziji halibut koji je ipak bio sasvim jestiv :-) Tu sam doziveo i prijatno iznenadjenje - Cesi ipak imaju solidna vina. Rizling iz Moravske je bio sasvim solidan, za klasu iznad mnogih koje sam pio u nasoj vinogorskoj meki.Vreme za izlaske ne previse mami iz stana, pre svega zbog vetrovitih noci i pustinje na ulicama u vecernjim satima. Odmah da kazem da nije nikakav problem vratiti se iz provoda u ma koje doba noci. Ako zanemarimo neprijatnost lutanja u okruzenju mordorski pretecih vrhova, javni prevoz savrseno funkcionise i nocu. Metro je doduse zatvoren, ali tramvaji i dalje saobracaju na pola sata, s tim sto linije polaze u razlicita vremena, sto unekoliko skracuje maksimalno vreme cekanja. Nema bojazni od propustanja tramvaja prilikom presedanja ili duzeg cekanja u hladnoj noci, buduci da se linije na stanicama koje se ukrstaju medjusobno cekaju. Naravno, u pratnji dama ce dzentlmen uvek potraziti taksi, sto moze da izazove trzavice pred povratak u toplu sobu. Taksisti nisu uvek raspolozeni da ukljuce taksimetar, a nije im stran ni odabir puta preko Bratislave, pa se nesporazum moze izbeci dogovorom o ceni voznje prilikom ulaska u vozilo. Najbolje je pozvati taksi porukom preko neke od sigurnijih kompanija, pa ce voznja kostati od 150 kruna oko centra grada, do 300-400 ako je smestaj nesto dalje. [Bitna digresija: kurs je pred NG vestacki spusten na 26 kruna za evro, i to u najboljim menjacnicama u gradu. Novac treba menjati VRLO oprezno, samo u preporucenim menjacnicama i uz pazljivu proveru kursa na tabli. Mnoge menjacnice istaknu kupovnu cenu evra, dok je prodajna znatno niza ili naplacuju veliku proviziju za uslugu. Ja sam novac menjao kod Huseina kod koga nema prevare, sto ce vam reci mnogi expatsi koji zive u Pragu.]Prag je odlican grad za izlaske za mlade i mladima sklone ;-) S obzirom da nisam ljubitelj dzambo diskoteka, svoj provod sam sveo na nekoliko mesta, pre svega simpatican klub Chateau. Na spratu uredjen kao pub uz povremene svirke, u podrumu je slican prostoru beogradskog Filija, s tim sto se dole pusta uglavnom komercijalni rnb i slicno. Tu je moguce obaviti transakciju u menjacnici kod ceskih Afro-Amerikanaca, po kursu od 250 kruna za gram vrlo dobrog skanka. Preporuka. Za klub mislim. U blizini se nalazi nekada odlican kafic-klub M1 u koji sam, medjutim, ovoga puta usao samo jednom na kratko. Da li sam odabrao pogresno vece, tek u minimalistickom ambijentu ogoljenih zidova i ventilacije, nacickala se omanja horda mladjih punoletnika, sto nije obecavalo dobar provod. Ko voli vece klubove sa studentarijom, uvek moze da se zaputi put Roxyja na neku od elektro zurki ili nesto decentniju i skuplju Radost, koja je malo izvan centra. Cene u klubovima nisu strasne, neznatno vise nego u kaficima.edit: sutra malo konkretnije informacije

Edited by BGhost, 08 January 2008 - 05:00:23.


#10 Ivo Petović

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:38:17

Jel' su to nešto skočile cene pića i hrane u odnosu na prošlu godinu ili je to neki novogodišnji harač?Ja sam prošlog proleća najskuplje češko pivo Pilsner Urquell u pabovima u samom centru plaćao najskuplje 29 kruna (krigla 0,5 l). To je tada bilo oko 1 eura. Ne računam one kafiće na samom trgu Staromestnih namesti. Pivo je apsolutna poezija.I razvaljivao sam se od raznih Gulaša, Knedlički i sličnih stvari u tim restorančićima u centru po nekim smešnim cenama u odnosu na Beograd (zaboravih tačno koliko, a ne bih da lupam).Prag je sjajan.I daj neku sliku sa Hradčana ili iz Zlatne ulice. Ili si se samo opijao i ožderavao? :D

#11 Otto Katz

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 14:23:00

S obzirom da sam bio smesten blizu stadiona FK Bohemiana, popularnih Klokana (:Hail

Očito si imao dobre domaćine. Par faktografskih ispravki i dopuna: FC Bohemians; postali su klokani dvadesetih godina poslije australijske turneje kad su na veliku radost navijača donijeli živog klokana kao maskotu. Fenomen Praga i cijelih Vršovica. U zemlji gdje se ljudi ne pale tek tako na sporedne stvari su prije par godina bankrotirali i izgubili takmičarsku licencu. Radni ljudi i građani Vršovica i cijelog Praga su onda skupili potrebnu sumu i ponovo otkupili licencu. Prošle godine su u drugoj ligi imali pun stadion na svakoj utakmici. Posljednja utakmica protiv Viktorije žižkov spada u moje najuzbudljivije stadionske doživljaje. Evropski Brazil. Navijati za Bohemku je u Pragu stvar dobrog ukusa. Legenda kluba je Antonin Panenka, igrač što je u na beogradskoj Marakani postigao pobjednički gol nježnim lobom po sredini gola preko Seppa Maiera u finalu EP. U to vrijeme su osvojili prvenstvo Češke, gostovao Ajax. To bi bilo otprilike kao da je u kupu prvaka igrao Ajax protiv Rada na Banjici. Pri čemu su ultras Bohemke većinom organizirani extremni ljevičari i anarhisti. S kopa se širi miris hašiša, ali treba reći da ipak ne zaspu, već urlaju do kraja.

Pilsner Urquell i Gambrinus, od kojih se Pilsner prodaje u dve varijante - desetka i dvanaestica. Broj predstavlja procenat alkohola u ekstraktu, dok je pravi procenat znatno nizi, za desetku oko 3.5-4%, a za dvanaesticu 4.5-5%.

Ispravka. Gambrinus i Prazdroj (Urquell) se pune u istoj pivovari; Prazdroj je 12ica, Gambrinus 10ka.

Hrana nije previse ukusna i Cesi ne polazu mnogo na egzoticne zacine, ukljucujuci biber i so.

Tužna realnost.

u Pragu se moze pojesti odlican sushi od sveze ribe

Ako se nastavi trend posljednjih godina, suši će postati naše nacionalno jelo. :)

Cesi ipak imaju solidna vina. Rizling iz Moravske je bio sasvim solidan, za klasu iznad mnogih koje sam pio u nasoj vinogorskoj meki.

Česi ne, ali Moravani. Rizling ne bih birao, ali neka bijela vina, pogotovu ako je pozna berba, "ledeno" i "slamno" vino su vrlo vrlo dobra.

Najbolje je pozvati taksi porukom preko neke od sigurnijih kompanija, pa ce voznja kostati od 150 kruna oko centra grada, do 300-400 ako je smestaj nesto dalje.

Preporučujem sms taxi službu; poslati sms s adresom na 777257257. Ili nazvati 605056056. Ako koristite neprovjerene firme, možete računati s neugodnim iznenađenjima.

Ja sam novac menjao kod Huseina kod koga nema prevare, sto ce vam reci mnogi expatsi koji zive u Pragu.

Iskusno. Huso je beogradski student i halal biznismen. Preporuka. Mjenjačnica je u Panskoj, ako idete iz Na Prikope s lijeve strane druga po redu.

simpatican klub Chateau.

Ova ozloglašena rupa je prva stanica britanskih stag/hen party crews. S aerodroma već dođu pijani, vjerovatno se ni ne trijezne do povratka.

Tu je moguce obaviti transakciju u menjacnici kod ceskih Afro-Amerikanaca, po kursu od 250 kruna za gram vrlo dobrog skanka.

U tome je valjda Chateaua cijeli šarm.

put Roxyja na neku od elektro zurki ili nesto decentniju i skuplju Radost, koja je malo izvan centra.

Roxy je No1, ali sad su im valjda ograničili radno vrijeme zbog buke. U Radosti se može i jesti, dobra tex-mex ponuda. Mislim da ga drže Beograđani, barem se tamo skupljaju.

#12 alberto.ascari

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 17:12:17

Ispravka. Gambrinus i Prazdroj (Urquell) se pune u istoj pivovari; Prazdroj je 12ica, Gambrinus 10ka.

Ispravka ispravke, pripadaju istoj kompaniji, ali se ne pune u istoj pivari. Iako se nalaze jedna pored druge i u sastavu jednog ogromnog areala, ipak su to dva piva. Gambrinus se proizvodi i kao 10 i kao 12. Plzeň samo 121 dobar edukativni webedit - nadam se da nećeš zameriti, ali mislim da je korisno proširiti znanja i ostalih forumaša u ovom pravcu

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:37:01

Sad se javljate, kad nema sanse da vidim Prag pre proleca <_<

Jel' su to nešto skočile cene pića i hrane u odnosu na prošlu godinu ili je to neki novogodišnji harač?

Oborili su evro na 26 kruna pred Novu Godinu. Evro je pao delimicno zbog turista (nekoliko dana po mom dolasku je kurs snizen za celu krunu), ali i zbog Ceske dugorocne monetarne politike. U okvira studioznih priprema za ulazak u evro-zonu, njihova centralna banka polako spusta kurs uz izmene u poreskom sistemu, kako bi prelazak na novu valutu bio sto bezbolniji. Cene se tek neznatno porasle u odnosu na moj prethodni boravak u Pragu pre tri godine, mozda za oko 5 kruna po krigli.

I daj neku sliku sa Hradčana ili iz Zlatne ulice. Ili si se samo opijao i ožderavao? :D

Imam nesto malo slika iz kafana, ali se ne secam da sam bio u kafani Hradcani. Gde je to? ;-)Ne volim te turisticke slike, a Hradcane i Zlatnu ulicu sam vec video. Pratim filozofiju koju sam cuo od mudrih ljudi - sta god da pozelis da slikas, neko je to vec uradio mnogo bolje ;-) Guzva je bila prevelika da bih imao zelju da ponovim izlet u Hrad, ovog puta sam malo svrljao po Visehradu i grobljima. Kad prebacim fotografije na racunar, okacicu ih i ovde, ako nadjem iole uspele. Iskreno, nisam nikakav fotograf, a ruke su mi se odvise tresle od ladnoce i otrova.

S kopa se širi miris hašiša, ali treba reći da ipak ne zaspu, već urlaju do kraja.

Sad mi kazes <_<

Česi ne, ali Moravani. Rizling ne bih birao, ali neka bijela vina, pogotovu ako je pozna berba, "ledeno" i "slamno" vino su vrlo vrlo dobra.

Nisam ljubimac™ slatkih vina. Navodno imaju dobar Sauvignon Blanc, sto cu overiti u sledecoj poseti.

Ova ozloglašena rupa je prva stanica britanskih stag/hen party crews. S aerodroma već dođu pijani, vjerovatno se ni ne trijezne do povratka. U tome je valjda Chateaua cijeli šarm.Roxy je No1, ali sad su im valjda ograničili radno vrijeme zbog buke. U Radosti se može i jesti, dobra tex-mex ponuda. Mislim da ga drže Beograđani, barem se tamo skupljaju.

Ma nema veza, Chateau je zadrzao stari sarm, jos uvek za barom dole radi Sakira :Hail: barmenka neverovatnih intelektualnih sposobnosti. Roxy je velika rupa sa diskretnim sarmom 1 KSTa, nisam imao zelju da ponovim posetu. Jesu im ogranicili radno vreme, ali mislim da to vazi samo za svirke.Klopa u Radosti je odlicna, o tome nesto vise kad budem arcio sopstveno vreme.

#14 msmodesty

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:42:28

kamo slike?kako to neko drugi slikao bolje? bez sale - moje fotografije su mi uvek lepse i naravno draze nego sto je neko drugi slikao ili kad ovde ljudi stave svoje, uvek je divota gledati i provereno sa par destinacija (tipa Venezia - sve je bas onako kako su apotekarica i alberto videli a ne onako kako stoji na tripadvisoru mada lichia bez slika ti niko nista ni ne veruje - sve si mogao i da prepises <_<

Edited by msmodesty, 10 January 2008 - 10:46:21.


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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:46:53

chateau je postao rupcaga najgora, na jednog skromnog duvaca trave dodze 6 dealera, sto je mnogo mnogo je bato. ribe su oznojene pijane i smrde. a nekada je to bila kul kafana. btw, bono the ljakse i ekipa mu su pre koncerta zapucali pravo tamo, jebote bas je pravi ljakse.