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ne znam, meni je ceo taj koncept za spaliti... da mi neko prodaje mesto za noge, par kg prtljaga da mi naplacuju, vodu, neke osnovne stvari, ponizavajuce. imali su bas u easyjet cini mi se ideju da i koriscenje WC-a na letu naplacuju. i to sve za par desetina evra manje od legacy kompanije, tako na kraju ispadne. 

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Ta ideja je bila u Rajaneru (tj. to je izjavio direktor Rajanera za medije, mislim da nikada nije ozbiljno to uzeto u razmatranje). Treba biti fer...loukosteri su napravili revoluciju u avio-saobraćaju, uneli mnogo konkurencije i učinili putovanje avionom mnogo pristupačnijim prosečnom čoveku. To je sve vredno pohvale. Da njih nema, avionska karta Beograd - Beč npr. bi koštala 600 evra. No mislim da je trenutno previše igrača na tržištu, niko tu ne može da zaradi (tj. mnogi ne mogu) i onda i mene nervira što se briše ta linija između loukostera i legacy kompanije. Tako sam pre par nedelja išao LH-om i šokirao se na čekinu kada su mi rekli da se prtljag doplaćuje jer imam "economy light" tarifu (nisam ja kupio kartu, poslovno putovanje)! I to za kartu koja je koštala preko 400 evra. Pa jebote! A to što kažeš s druge strane, kada ,,loukosterima" nekim platiš sve što ti treba da bi putovao kao čovek, onda i više nije loukost.

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Ne bih bas rekao, nize cene je donelo otvoreno nebo i vise aviokompanija koje lete na istoj ruti i takmice se. 600 evra do Beca je moglo da bude dok su JAT i Austrian bili zasticeni i mogli sami da lete BG-Bec, najcesce na code-share, bez ikakve konkurencije. Nemaju loukosteri puno veze sa tim. Loukosteri su jednostavno pilicari koji su provalili da postoji jedan segment trzista u kome su ljudi koji su spremni da se ponizavaju i drndaju za 10-20 evra manje. A to je izazvalo vremenom ovo sto ti pricas, da i legacy kompanije sada smanjuju standarde, i da se ponuda cele industrije polako svodi na da se osecas kao govedo kada letis, ko da oni tebi placaju a ne ti njima. 

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Ne bih se složio za loukost, taj model je izmislio Southwest u SAD gde je oduvek bilo otvoreno nebo (mislim na lokalno tržište, ne za prekookeanske letove)...i primenio na već postojeće domaće tržište. Otvoreno nebo u Evropi je pomoglo naravno, ali mi među legacy carrier-ima imamo faktički kartele (Star Alliance, Oneworld, Skyteam, itd.), da nema loukostera za unutarevropske linije konkurencija bi bila dosta slabija. A da ima neželjenih efekata svega toga zbog kojih ti se letenje ponekad smuči, to ima, slažem se

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Sviranje kurcu :fantom:

Ili, uobicajeno novorusko novokomponovano egzibicionisanje sa sve napomenama da lik, rukovalac tereta, eto, radi bez opreme, samo u gimnastjorkitm, a ne kao tamo neki kilavi Amerikanci sa 100 kila HTZ opreme na sebi...

Na stranu to sto su ne samo geni, nego i sama gvozdjurija sovjetski, da su ove stvari u itekakvom kontekstu, tacnije van istog, da Rusiju danas cini svetskim igracem samo onih cirka 1000+ ICBM ili cega vec, da da su - sto se svega ostalog tice - njeni strateski dometi ograniceni na nivo regionalne sile i to sile koja i nije bas u nekoj formi.

I na stranu to sto je - a to je aksiom od kako je sveta i veka - da su vojske slika i prilika drzave kojoj pripadaju ili koja pripada njima, kako kad.

 

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Pacijent, 1 norveski patrolni/protivpodmornicki Orion, vreme desavanja rane 80-te proslog, 20. veka....

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I zrtva - 1 usisivac:

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Koliko su stvari otisle daleko videlo se kada je, na udaljenosti manjoj od 5 metara sovjetski pilot podigao obe ruke pokazujuci pri tom da ume da vozi bez ruku.

 

 

Umele su, doduse, slicne igranke da se zavrse i drugacije:

 

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OK-CTB se vratio kuci.

 

Ovaj Lockheed 10 Electra, Lockheed-ov pokusaj da se parira Douglas-ovom DC-2 i Boeing-ovom 247, Inace u svakom pogledu uspesan avion, pripadao je kompaniji svetskog glasa,

Dejiny koncernu Bata, ali mnogo poznatijoj samo kao Bata i to u vise od 60 zemalja sveta, cak i danas, ono ex-Yu Borovo da se i ne pominje.

Porodicna firma, osnovana 1894, oparila se i etablirala i pre, a narocito tokom WW1, a njen gazda Tomaš Bata istinski se proslavio kao istinski veliki industrijalac svog doba i to u poprilicno oblasti koje nemaju direktne veze sa pravljenjem cipela, pa ce tako, na primer, ostati zapamcen kao jedan od retkih gazda koji je ukapirao da je bolje placati zadovoljne radnike, smestene u pristojne stanove pa tako verovatno i danas postoje fotografije radnickog naselja u Borovu, ostatak sveta da se ne pominje...

Bata je - u ovom ili onom obliku - nastavio da radi i u kapitalizmu i u socijalizmu: socijalisticki, nacionalizovani Bata je tako, jugoslovenskim brodovima, preko Rijeke, obuo pola Azije, kapitalisticki je bio i ostao firma svetskog glasa, da bi se, posle svega, vratio u rodni Zlin gde se danas nalazi direkcija ceske filijale.

Der tschechische Schuhkönig je ostavio trag, toliki da ga se kao uzora nisu stideli ni jedan Henry Kaiser, mada obojica danas u virtuelna vremena pripadaju jednoj vec zaboravljenoj sorti s obzirom da su korporacije postale ekstremno korporativne na decju radost novokomponovanih liberala od svake fele koji nisu citali jednog Capeka, na primer. 

A sa avijacijom bez granica, Bata i njegov gazda imaju itekakve veze: prvi su, ili u svakom slucaju medju prvima, uveli nesto sto se danas zove corporate aircraft.

I to ne samo za prevoz glavonja, nego i za brzi prevoz majstora i strucnjaka potrebnih za posao: sam osnivac firme, Tomaš Bata, je 1932. godine i poginuo u jednom od firminih aviona, jednom Junkersu F-13, putujuci na poslovni sastanak u Svajcarsku.

Electra sa slike je u firmu stigla 1937. godine u po Cehoslovacku teska vremena: poklonjena Adolfu, zemlja nije imala sanse, pa je avion posluzio da clanove porodice preveze u prijateljsku Jugoslaviju, odakle su produzili u Britaniju.

Avion je prodat kanadskoj vladi, posluzio tokom WW2, leteo itekako aktivno i posle, da bi ga Cesi pronasli pre neku godinu u vlasnistvu nekog teksaskog entuzijaste.

Otkupljen je i renoviran, da bi pre nekoliko godina samostalno preleteo iz SAD u Cesku, paznje vredan poduhvat za masinu staru preko 70 godina.

Piloti su se zvali Milan i Nikola.

 

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Isto to, samo davne 1937...

 

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I polubrat i naslednik Tomaša Bate, Jan Antonin Bata...

 

Inace, ovaj avion nije jedina veza Bata sa avionima: osnovali su i na noge podigli fabriku aviona koja sasvim sigurno spada u legende vazduhoplovstva: Zlinska letecka společnost, a. s, proizvodjaca aviona koji je posle WW2 - izmedju ostalih - napravio najveci deo aviona na kojima se socijalisticka omladina ucila letenju, a koji su - sve hladnoratovske pizdarije na stranu - bili visoko cenjeni na zapadu.

 

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Danas Zlin Aircraft a.s. malo slajfuje, tranzicija, taj rad, ali da su mu zavideli i na istoku i na zapadu - jesu:

 

 

 

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On 12/14/2017 at 12:39 PM, palikaris said:

Loukosteri su jednostavno pilicari koji su provalili da postoji jedan segment trzista u kome su ljudi koji su spremni da se ponizavaju i drndaju za 10-20 evra manje. A to je izazvalo vremenom ovo sto ti pricas, da i legacy kompanije sada smanjuju standarde, i da se ponuda cele industrije polako svodi na da se osecas kao govedo kada letis, ko da oni tebi placaju a ne ti njima. 

 

ti pilicari su u evropi razvalili solidan broj nepilicara i oterali ih u bankrot. ti isti pilicari su trenutno najveci kupci aviona na svetu.

 

pride, ako platis dodatne usluge u lowcostu, dobices isti nivo usluge kao i u klasicnim kompanijama (obicno i tada budu nesto jeftiniji od standardnih kompanija). s druge strane, dok nije bilo lowcost ponude, ove fine klasicne firme su ti uvaljivale hranu i checkin prtljag za velike pare, trebalo ti to ili ne. meni je uvek drazi izbor nego "besplatne" usluge koje nikako ne mogu da izbegnem.

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4 Better Ways to Spend $163 Billion

By Avi Yashchin

LISA CRANSHAW VIA GETTY IMAGES


The F-35 joint strike fighter—the United States’ most expensive and controversial warplane to date—is finally operational after more than a decade of painfully expensive setbacks. This is good news for supporters of the program, much more so than the program’s last claim of good news - liftoff from a ski jump.

The initial F-35 contract was supposed to cost $1.5 trillion over 50 years. The current contract is seven years behind schedule and $163 billion over budget. Adding insult to injury, recent reports indicate that the F-35 won’t even outperform the F-16, the very plane the F-35 has been designed to replace!

To put the cost of this $163bn, unforced error into perspective, here are four other things the United States Taxpayers could have bought with just the waste from the F-35 Program.

 

1. Buy Every Unicorn in the United States

Having spent a lot of time around startups, I know how hard every employee works to achieve liftoff. It’s pretty standard for a startup to demand of its employees 70 hour weeks in meager conditions, all for the hopes that one day, when the startup sells for a billion dollars it will be worthwhile. These companies are hard to build, and success is a rarity, not a guarantee. From HBO’s Silicon Valley to podcasts like StartUp, and almost 20% of graduating MBAs going into tech, the next generation is looking to strike it rich on a great idea. Startups that sell for over $1 billion, are referred to as ‘unicorns’ because they are so rare as to be almost mythological.

The F-35’s cost overruns are so high that the U.S. government could have given back US Taxpayers enough money to buy every unicorn in the country except the three largest, Uber, Snapchat, and Palantir. The government could then provide the services of these companies as a public service.

Here’s the list of companies that are worth less, combined, than just the mistakes of the F-35:

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2. Space: Go Back to the Moon or Build a Spare International Space Station

The International Space Station (ISS) is the most expensive and complex machine ever built. This International Space Station ‘only’ costs $150bn—still cheaper than the overruns of the Lightning II. There are many well documented benefits of space exploration that justify the cost of the ISS. The benefits of the new “most expensive machine ever built”, a tiny, dangerous, questionably performing fighter plane is quite unclear.

For what the Pentagon has already sunk into developing an aircraft that just made its first successful ascent off a ski jump, we also could send men back to the moon. The total cost of the Apollo Eleven mission was reported to Congress as $25 billion in 1969 dollars. Taking inflation rates into account, the entire Apollo program is still cheaper than the F-35:

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Put another way - NASA’s approved 2015 budget is $18 billion—meaning the F-35’s over-budget costs only, could pay for a decade of NASA projects. Projects that fund the kind of planetary exploration that future generations might come to depend on for survival.

 

3. Provide Free Graduate School Education

Imagine what society would look like if the country could afford to fund Law, Medical, PhD and Master degrees for every citizen who wanted one. Would society advance faster than ever before? Would we even need fighter planes? Philosophical questions aside, The United States could fund every one of its citizens seeking higher education degrees, if not for overages for the F-35 program.

According to the Council of Graduate Schools, total grad student enrollment is 1.7 million students. Depending on the program and school, the cost of a graduate degree is around $30,000 per year, which means American grad students spend $51 billion dollars per year. The average graduate program takes three years to complete, that figure becomes (1,700,000 students x $30,000 x 3 years) $153 billion in total grad school costs for every graduating class.

Instead of focusing on higher education and funding graduate school for every lawyer, doctor, engineer, and PhD candidate, we’re left with “the worst plane in the world.” I’m sure some of those engineering students could design a more cost effective fighter jet.

 

4. Prepare for the Worst Natural Disasters

Under President Obama’s 2015 fiscal budget, the Federal Emergency Management Agency received $10.38 billion in federal funding. I don’t have to tell you how much lower than $163 billion that is ($152.62 billion less, to be exact). Increasing FEMA’s budget would leave our country better prepared to handle mother nature’s next superstorm—a threat as formidable as any foes the F-35 will supposedly be able to conquer in battle.

 

Conclusion

Lockheed Martin has been allowed to operate above the consequences of the rest of the business world. By overpromising and underdelivering by a factor of a moon landing with no loss of contract, what is the message to our country’s struggling students, entrepreneurs, and non-military government workers?

Furthermore, Lockheed Martin is a relatively tiny company compared to the size of the contract, worth only about $60 billion. It would have been cheaper for the United States to purchase the company, shut down every other program, and run the F-35 program themselves. How could the United States give a 55-year $1.5 trillion contract to a company that has only a few billion in cash?

It just doesn’t make sense that there are no Capital Requirements for Government Contracts, the same way there are for banks. Lockheed Martin claims that cost overruns will bankrupt the company and put the entire program at risk, then Lockheed forces taxpayers to pay for Lockheed’s mistakes. This kind of moral hazard allows execution at Lockheed to remain poor, to the detriment of the US Taxpayers. This type of contract error should have cost Lockheed their business.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/avi-yashchin/4-better-ways-to-spend-16_2_b_8017866.html

 

A lepo im je Ajzenhauer govorio... :fantom:

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Boeing 787 "Dreamliner". Kolega koji se zatekao u hotelskoj sobi u Sijetlu na dan prve isporuke (25. septembar 2011) , slikao TV i poslao mi ovu sliku. Prva firma koja je dobila 787 je japanska ANA, naručila prvih 52 komada. Sada ih ima 83.

 

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Ovo je isti taj. Thai Airways.

 

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Prozori su 50% veći i nemaju zavesice

 

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Kako je osvetljenje jače, sami se zatamnjuju (ko hoće, može zatamnjenje svog prozora da ukine ili da ga promeni)

 

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Drugi savremeni avioni (izuzev Airbus 350) u kabini održavaju pritisak kao na nadmorskoj visini 2,400m. Dreamliner održava kao na 1,800m. To znatno smanjuje zamor od letenja ali zahteva i posebno spremljenu hranu. 

Mora da bude manje začinjena od one za standardne letove (B777, B747, A330...) jer se ukus drugačije oseća na manjoj nadmorskoj visini.

 

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Tajna neukusnosti avionske hrane je i u tome: ako se spremi kao za restoran, gore je neukusna kao seno. Ovo je bilo restoranskog kvaliteta i to na visini.

Sajtovi (kojima ne verujem), godinama izglasavaju Thai Airways za najbolju ekonomsku klasu. Ako i nije baš tačno, nije ni iz čega.

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5 hours ago, Yoyogi said:

Boeing 787 "Dreamliner".

 

Kako je osvetljenje jače, sami se zatamnjuju (ko hoće, može zatamnjenje svog prozora da ukine ili da ga promeni)

 

 

Osim sto neke avio kompanije imaju opciju da 'override' individualne komande :thumbsdown:

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